Optimizer-dependent training dynamics converge to the same one-third optimal data scaling
Neural scaling, in which loss falls as a power law with training, is central to large language models, and one recent proposal is that a $1/3$ exponent emerges from learning peaked distributions. That account describes SGD, but models in practice are trained with adaptive optimizers. Here we separate two exponents the $1/3$ account does not distinguish: how fast the loss falls with training steps along a single run, and how fast the optimally tuned loss falls with dataset size $D$. We show that the first, a dynamic exponent, is optimizer-specific while the second, an optimal data exponent, converges to $1/3$ across optimizers. In an online teacher-student model we decompose the loss into norm growth (radial) and alignment toward the teacher direction (tangential), each decaying as a power law with dynamic exponents $α_{r}$ and $α_{t}$. Under SGD, both are close to $1/3$, so the data exponent is also $1/3$ across different learning rates. Under Adam the two separate: $α_{r} \simeq 0.48$ but $α_{t} \simeq 0.08$. Since the total loss is minimized when these two parts are balanced, the optimal learning rate is optimizer-dependent: $D$-independent for SGD but falls with $D$ for Adam.…
- arXiv
- 2609.37745
- Authors
- Hyunseok Lee, Mihir Basil, Yizhou Liu, Jeff Gore
- Categories
- cs.LG