MagicBeanStalk: Escaping the RLVR Zero Advantage Trap with Recursive Data Synthesis
Data-centric scaling of RLVR has focused on collecting or generating verifiable training problems. However, corpus size alone does not determine whether the dataset provides a useful learning signal for a target policy. To guide the synthesis of effective RLVR data, we experimentally characterize dataset effectiveness as a function of its problems, the target policy, and the training rollout budget. Under this characterization, we show that a large open-source math corpus pooled from widely used RLVR datasets falls almost entirely into a zero-advantage trap: for a fixed target policy and rollout budget, roughly 88% of its problems are solved in every rollout or failed in every rollout. Filtering concentrates what remains, but it can only select, discarding the hard problems. Effective synthetic problems should therefore require the reasoning operations and compositions required to solve those hard problems. Yet their difficulty must be calibrated, so that some rollouts succeed, some fail, and at least one correct solution fits within the training budget. Prompting a teacher to vary hard problems directly does not achieve this. Guided by these empirical principles, we introduce…
- arXiv
- 2610.12659
- Authors
- Ximing Lu, Aviral Kumar, Jan Kautz, Yejin Choi, David Acuna
- Categories
- cs.AI · cs.LG